The supportive tail that wants to engage at slower speeds is why I described it as wanting to be skied with a traditional stance. The tail of the deathwish really wants to hook up (in a good way) and feels more engaged than the bibby, making it more fun at lower speeds when the bibby would rather be slid around. I feel the forebody of the deathwish is not stiff enough to lean into the tips and charge. Yeah, didn't really explain this the best. This is saying something, as I like my Bibbys a lot. The DW's overall performance has made me consider inserts or plates so that I can ski them at the hill when it hasn't snowed, as I think they would be more fun than the Bibbys on lots of days. I haven't had the DWs in firm chunder, but I've had them in lots of terrible snow conditions ranging from water saturated glop to unsupportive rain crust and they seem to handle it all at least as well as any other ski I've been on and better than most. The DWs feel noticeably quicker edge to edge and are definitely easier to throw around in the bumps and tight spaces. I had to remind myself numerous times to throttle them back for fear of a highspeed pre-release last time I had them at the hill. I don't trust the dynafits on hard surfaces at high speeds, so I can't really comment on the DW's ability to really rail, but my feeling is that they are quite stable and a little easier to bend into a smaller radius turn than the Bibbys. The DW definitely feels lighter, poppier and more playful than the Bibby (surprise, surprise - it is). The couple of times the snow hasn't been abused by wind/temp/rain the DW has felt really similar to the Bibby in terms of looseness with marginally less float, but a nice consistent pop and flex which allows for easy airs off of almost any feature and smooth, easy turns of any radius. I say might due to the lack of pow I have had the DW in. Bibby 'might' be slightly more surfy and loose in pow. Bibby is therefore more damp and solid feeling when pushed in chopped snow. This shouldn't be a big surprise, as the ski is stiffer, wider and heavier. I have more days on the Bibby and trying to compare skis driven with alpine boots and bindings to skis driven with touring boots and dynafits is challenging, but my $0.02 thus far mostly agree with what others have said:īibby feels more substantial and willing to rage in all conditions. I currently use the Bibby 190 mounted alpine -6 cm (recommended) as my daily driver and the Deathwish 190 (-1 from recommended) as my dedicated touring rig. Care to elaborate on which has more drivability, without being FWT stiff/charger? Thinking the deathwish is the ticket for a deep day and replacement to my atlases, Can do everything from Whistler to Squaw, but mostly at home here in Washington. ![]() Current skis are 182 atlases which I enjoy for the flat tail/solid underfoot railing of turns. I don't need a rock solid ski, but enjoy something that can lean into an arc. I find myself with a more traditional stance, driving the tips of the skis, carving turns. Wait, so the deathwish is for a more traditional stance but the bibby has better driving of the tips of the ski? These sound like the same thing to me. Totally different ski from the bibby though.Īs far as the best ski to do it all, I think that will entirely depend on what you are looking for the ski to excel in and your skiing style. The govenor I feel can handle similar conditions to the bibby, just with a slightly different skiing style. That being said, I feel the 190 deathwish may have the slight edge over the older versions of the 190 bibby with your current quiver. More of a chargy snowblade than easy traditional ski in how easy it can be and style of skiing it will work with, but retains 85% of the charging ability of a stiff, more traditionally shaped ski. Will charge and much more conducive to really railing and driving the tips compared to the deathwish imo. Deathwish - Choose this if you ski with you ski with a more traditional stance (ie, not centered, "new school" form, this ski encourages really loading and carving the tail given the lack of stiffness imo), and all round fun not all out charging ability is most important.īibby - Slight soft snow bias, similar to billy goat in application, but much more of a locked in, carving feeling.
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